朝から気分が悪いです。考えれば考えるだけ苛々してきます。誰かが立ち上がらないと、このまま闇雲闇の中に消されてしまいそうなので、あえてもう一度書いておきます。
昨日公開しました上田桃子の全米女子オープンでの過少申告疑惑。先日アップしてから当サイトで最もアクセスされている記事であることは言うまでもなく、日本の地上波の中継を見ていた方の中にも疑問に思われた方は多かったのでしょう。
「ごるふまん」さんという大変親切な読者がYouTubeにも同じ動画がアップされているのを教えてくれました。ここで改めてご覧ください。
※削除される可能性が高いので早めにご覧ください
明らかにボールは動いています。打とうとした瞬間にボールが動き、「これはまずい!」と察したのでしょう。上田はあたかも何かに邪魔されたかのように後ずさりし、ボールをリプレースしています。
何が腹立たしいかといいますと、この映像を撮り我々日本国民に中継していたテレ朝のメディアとしてのスタンス。テレ朝の中継には2種類の映像があり一つは国際映像(優勝争いしている選手や注目選手などを追いかけているもの)と独自のカメラで追いかけている映像があります。今回の映像は後者であり、優勝争いもしていなかった上田を日本の視聴者のためにテレ朝が追いかけていたのでしょう。僕はゴルフネットワークで中継を見ていたため、このシーンには気付きませんでした。
中継の解説者、戸張捷はボールが動いているのに気付いていたのでしょう。仮に、白を切って気付いていなかったと言い張るのであれば解説者は失格です。上田がアドレスから一歩下がり、再びアラインし直すのですが、その時ボールが動いた件には何も触れず、いかにも不自然な間を置いてから「ちょっと何かが気になったのでしょう」的なコメントをしています。
ふざけないでください。
視聴者(日本中のゴルファー)をバカにするのもいい加減にしてください。
明らかなファウルを黙認するようなコメントをした戸張とその場にいた中継スタッフたち。仮にも日本のゴルフ界の「重鎮」とされている人が、こんな有様でよいのでしょうか?
これを見ていて、2005年のミッシェル・ウィの失格の件を思い出しました。ウィが初めてプロの試合に出場した際、米スポーツイラストレーテッド誌の記者が彼女のラウンドを追いかけていたのですが、ラフの中に打ち込んでアンプレイアブルと判断したウィはボールを拾いドロップをしたのです。しかし、この記者はウィがドロップした位置がカップより近くなっていたことに気付いたのです。この記者はラウンド後、ウィに話を聞きに行き、状況説明を求めました。そして、結果的にはこの記者が目撃したものは正しく、ドロップしたボールはカップに近付いていてウィは失格となったのです。
その時、「16歳の子に対して、どうしてそこまでする必要があるのか?」と記者を責める声もありました。この記者は一環して「まずミッシェルに話をすることが筋だと思った。まず彼女の言い分を聞きたかった。それが記者としての義務」と、世間の期待を背負っていたウィにでさえ正義を曲げないスタンスを取っていました。
今回の上田桃子の件でいうなら、ゴルフ業界に長く携わる戸張のような人間がまずは上田に話を聞くことだったのではないでしょうか。それがルールに抵触している・していないは運営者であるUSGAが決めること。中継中に自分たちの都合の良いような結論を出すのは論外です。
そして、数多くいた日本メディアの人たちもなぜ気付かなかったのか?気付いた人はいなかったのか?気付いていたとしたらなぜ本人あるいはルールオフィシャルに話しに行かなかったのでしょうか?
誤解のないように言っておきますが、僕は上田桃子という選手は好きです。将来のある選手だと思っているし、いずれはアメリカツアーでも活躍できる選手だと思っています。10,000歩譲って「バレーやバスケは先が無いスポーツ」発言は彼女の意見として尊重できたとしても(賛成はできませんが)、今回の件はプロアマ問わずゴルフという「自己申告」で成り立っているスポーツを根底から否定しているとも取れてしまいます。誠意、スポーツマンシップ、相手への敬意・・・。これまで誠実にプレーしたきたゴルファーたちは何だったんですか!?
まずは本人の話を聞いてみたい。
しかし、一視聴者がそんなことを言っても「終わった話」と一蹴されてしまう可能性が大なので、ここは全米女子オープンの主催者USGAにメールを送ってみようと思います。ルールに関する質問窓口もネット上にあったのでちょうど良いです。YouTubeの動画リンク付きで。テレ朝はこれ以上大事にしたくないでしょうから、YouTubeの動画削除要請を出すでしょう。そんなこともあるかと、ローカルにバックアップ取りました。
先日も紹介した2ちゃんのスレッドは両極端な意見が飛び交っています。もし、この件についてUSGAにコメント、質問したいことがありましたらコメントを残してください。そちらも合わせて説明要求文書として送ろうと思います。
ったく、全英オープンで忙しいというのに、こんなことで手間取らせやがって!テレ朝ぁぁ!
今週、あなたたちの中継は絶対に見ませんから。ゴルフネットワークでイナフ!
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上田桃子のそのシーンは何日目の何番ホールでしょうか??
携帯だと画像が見れなくて…。お手数かけます。
戸張・岡本、共に失格ですね。非常に気分が悪いです。
石川遼が石を動かして尾崎直道を驚かせたように、マナー
や正義も大切ですが、プロフェッショナルとしての姿勢を
周囲に見せる(見られている)という意識が足りないから
こういうこともできてしまうのでしょうね。
上田はよりによって全米メジャーでやるのだから始末が悪い。
過去に過少申告(消しゴムなど)でキャリアを棒に振った選手
もいるわけで、上田だから・・・というのはなしですね。
平等に裁かれるべきですし、本人の今後もずーっとズルした
上田として見られるでしょう。
非常に残念です。
天網恢恢疎にして漏らさず。
ところで、文頭の
>誰かが立ち上がらないと、このまま闇雲にされてしまいそうなので、あえてもう一度書いておきます。
「闇雲」の意味がちょっと違うかと・・・
>仙人 さん
ご丁寧にありがとうございます!
そして、「闇雲」のご指摘までm(_ _)m 横線で修正しておきました。勉強しますw
>ジョゼ さん
このシーンは大会初日、1番ホールでの出来事です。
まだYouTubeに動画アップされていますので、ご確認いただけます。
ありがとうございます。
>jvg さん
貴重なご意見ありがとうございます。
ボールが動いた瞬間にパターヘッドが微妙に動いてますよね。あれが本人がボールが動いた事に気づいた動かざる証拠だと思います。アドレスを解いた事より、その瞬間にパターヘッドが微妙に上がった事が重要だと思います。
>チャーハウ さん
コメありがとうございます。
おっしゃるとおり、一瞬パターヘッドが動いたことが本人が気付いた証拠です!
仕切り直しした際に、競技委員を呼ぶべき。
タイガーならどのように振舞うだろうか。
私も腹立たしい気持ちで一杯です。
ズームした動画で見ましたが、明らかに動いてますね。5mmほどでしょうか。
その後に不自然な仕切り直し、難しいパット決めても喜んでいないなど本人は気付いているでしょう。
本来は失格になる上田選手のために予選落ちした選手はいたのでしょうか?
上田選手と同位、下位の選手は賞金が変わってしまいましたよね。残念で悪質なプレイでした。
この騒動に関する2ちゃんねるの単独スレが立っています。
それによると既にUSGAにはアクションを起こしており、その返答
待ちの状態だそうです。
まずはその返答を待ったほうがよいかと。
いつも更新ご苦労様です。
私は現在米国在住ですが、視点も近く、共感できる記事が多く、
大変楽しく読ませていただいています。
さて、今回の件は大変残念ですね。憤りすら覚えます。
過去の発言から上田選手についてはうーん、という思いもありましたが、
今年の米ツアーを生観戦に行ってがんばっている姿をみて
海外で頑張っていることを素直に応援していこう、と思ったところでした。
しかし今回の件は自己申告のプロスポーツ選手として恥ずべき行動でしたね。
このまま何も起きなかったら、上田選手はこのまま変わらず、同じことをするでしょう。
次はもしかしたら国際映像で捉えられて全世界から叩かれるようなことになるかもしれません。
今後の彼女の将来のためにも、今、きっちりと罰せられるべきだと思います。
たとえ失格になったとしても、2打罰がついたとしても、彼女の将来のために。
もうひとつはおっしゃるとおりメディアや関係者の姿勢も問われるべき。
うやむやにしたとも取れる今回の対応は非常に恥ずべきことと思います。
2chからも意見書が出たようですが、複数からの問い合わせがあっても
いいと思います。私はGet in the holeからも質問書を送っていいと思います。
ついこの間、ハリントンがパット時にボールが動いて自己申告した場面がありましたね。
好きな選手というわけではないですが、彼のそういう姿勢やコメントには感心させられる
ことがあります。当たり前のことをしているだけ、と彼はそう言うでしょう。
日本のファンを、ゴルフファンを辱めるような行為は決してうやむやにしてはいけません。
このことをちゃんと記事にしてくださったことに敬意を表します。
>(匿名) さん
コメありがとうございます。本来であれば予選を通過していた選手は・・・なんとも言えないですよね。仮に初日を終えて2打ペナを申告していたならば、2日目以降の上田のプレーは変わっていたかもしれませんしね。「たられば」になっちゃいますよね。
>晴天龍 さん
コメありがとうございます。タイガーならどのように振舞うか・・・。面白いですね。勝手な想像ですが、きっとボールが動いた瞬間、一歩下がって「信じられない」といった感じで首を振りながら仕切り直すでしょうね。そして競技を終えた後に2打プラスして申告。「何があったか?」と記者に聞かれたら素直に「ボールが動いてしまった。300ヤードでも3ミリでも1打は1打」なんて答えるんじゃないんですかね。
それが普通だと思っていてたのですが、そうではないゴルファー(関係者)が多くいるようですね
>下田梨子 さん
コメありがとうございます。そのスレ、拝見しました。頃合を見て、メールしてみようと思います。(2chの動きも注目しておきます)。ありがとうございます。
>TK さん
コメありがとうございます。たしかに、彼女の将来を思うと、ここで一度きっちり制裁を受けた方がいいんですよね、きっと。ハリントンの件、覚えています。「そんなのどうしようもないだろ!?」と見ている方が気の毒になるようなシーンでしたが、それでも彼は「当たり前」のように申告していましたもんね。同じプロゴルファーでも根底にあるもの-実績とか、センスとかではなくて-、プロとしての資質みたいなものが根本的に違うのかもしれないなー、と思い始めてしまいました。それはきっと上田桃子が育ってきた環境や今の周囲の人間(Eコーチ…)などに依存するところが大きいのではないかな~と思わなくもないですね。私見です。
新しい「鮮明な」動画もアップされています。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtVMJ3iMd1g
各所に問い合わせメールを送っているようですが、回答が来たという書き込みは見当たりません。
>ゴルフ板住人 さん
ご丁寧に新しい動画URLありがとうございます!追加しておきます。
私は本日メールする予定です。何かありましたらこちらでご報告します。
残念ですね。明らかにアドレス(ソールが地面についてる)に入ってから動いているので1ペナですね。よってあの後のマークは本の場所へのリプレースとなり、ホールアウト後マーカーに「ボール動いたので1ペナしてパーの5です」といって自分もスコアカードに「5」と書くだけで問題なかったのに・・・
そしてまぁまぁ好きだった戸張と岡本も残念です。
この三人はゴルフをするどころか語る資格は剥奪されても仕方ないと思います。
何よりも自分に対して一番厳しく! それが「ゴルフ」というものでしょう。
>よし さん
コメントありがとうございます。
自分に厳しく・・・おっしゃる通りだと思います。
そして、今テレ朝で何もなかったかのように解説をしている戸張。失格ですね。
とうとう桃ブロにコメント出ましたね。
残念です、正直に言ってほしかった、プロとして。
当時の状況はごまかしながらも、動いた事は認めるかと思いましたが残念です。
「マネージャーに聞いて初めて知った」???から始まり、びくっとしてやり直した核心には触れず、「認識」等、弁護士からのアドバイスかゴーストが書いたのか問題にならないようなコメント。
挙句の果てには、「堂々と自分らしいゴルフをこれからも・・」
勘弁してください、嘘つきゴルフを続けないで欲しいです。
なぜ、彼女がトッププロゴルファーなんでしょう?こんなことなら「明らかな嘘つきはプロ資格剥奪」なんてルールも作らなくてはならくなりますよ。
プロだからあってはならないけれども、人間なんだから間違いはあるでしょう。それを正直に認めて再出発する事がどれだけ成長するか。
しかし彼女とその関係者は、悪い政治家や悪い社長のような偽装に走ってしまった。
本当に許せません。
私も当初から憤りを感じ、二日目にUSGAにメールしました。意外にも翌日返信があり「今回のプレーは何も問題ない」でした。なぜだ?
って考えると、私の文にプレー日を書き忘れて、時差を考えると二日目のプレーに関しての回答でした。「初日のプレーです」と「テレ朝のアップ映像に残ってます」を付け加え(画像リンクは着けてません)メールしましたが、まだ返事はありません。確かにR&Aに聞くことになると15日くらいかかると書いてありますので待っている状況です。
テレ朝の姿勢にも疑問が残ります、ゴルフを放送する者の責任が。
戸張氏のコメントもテレビ局の指示ではないでしょうか。
色々賛否ありますがあれだけ厳しい方ですから、そう信じたいです。
テレ朝にも二日目に、番組の意見に投稿しましたが当然のように返事はありません。
ワトソンとシンクのようにゴルフには素晴らしい感動があるだけに、「今回の件」は許せません。
上田選手のたった一つの嘘のおかげで、一般ゴルファー、他のプロゴルファー、ジュニアゴルファー、関係者、スポンサー、テレビ局、解説者、ゴルフファン、上田ファン、みんなに迷惑をかけてることを、うわべでなく心からわかって欲しいもんです。素直に。
「今回の件」お互い頑張りましょう。
映像で見れているからそういうことが言えるわけであって、あなたがその場にいたら100%気づけているといえますか?
桃子プロがその事に気づいたというのもあなたの単なる憶測でしかありませんよね?
見ている人はなんとでも言えますが、そこにいた同伴競技者も競技委員の人たちも気づいていないのだからもし仮に動いていたとしても桃子プロが気付けなかったというのは十分ありえるのではないでしょうか?
ここの書き込みを見る限りだと、
育ってきた環境
周囲の人間の影響
本人の人間性
それらを引き合いに出して批判している人は桃子プロの何をどこまで知っているからそんなことが言えるのでしょうか?
はっきりいってあなた達の意見はただのストレス発散にしか思えてなりません!!!!!!!
てかひとつ言えんのが全部推測の話なんだよね。
よく推測でここまで叩けるよね。
コメントしてる者としてお答えします。
もし私があの場に立てていたら凄く光栄なことです。プロとしてメジャー大会ですから。その場でアドレス中に自分のボールがあのくらい動けば100%気付きます。
もしその瞬間を見て無い場合、合わせたボールの目印がずれていれば動いたんだなと思います。そしてマーカーと競技委員を呼び事実を述べ裁定を仰ぎます。
本人が認めない限り、上田選手が気付いたのではという憶測です。
競技委員もマーカーも全てを見ているものではありません。あくまで自分が審判です。
なぜこんな憶測になるか。
動いた瞬間にビクッとなっているからです。
これはみんな人間として様々な行動、生活をしてきているからの憶測です。人間は動かないと思ってる物が動くと驚いて、反射してしまいます。
上田選手のことは詳しく知りません。
今までの行いなど、ニュースやテレビの範囲です。表面的な部分でしょうし、知らない事の方が多いでしょう。
しかし有名人が故に色々言われるのは仕方無い部分もあると思います。特に芸能人やプロ選手はある意味イメージや人間性、専門的な強さでスポンサーが着きますし、それで食べて行ってるわけですし。トップの人は収入も高いが、その分メディアに出る以上社会的影響も与えますし責任重大です。だからきちんとして欲しいのです。
今回の問題は、ゴルフのルールというより精神面です。
私は裁定がどう出ようといいんです。それより、あの瞬間の上田選手の心の真実を知りたいだけです。
最後にストレス発散ではありません。今回の件、ストレスである事には間違いありませんが、発散の為にコメントしてませんよ。
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